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Diamond or Dud?

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Why we're voting on BABA this week

Wall Street dumped US chip stocks and piled into Chinese tech this week. Alibaba surged 11% in a single session after two banks independently projected 45% cloud revenue growth for the June quarter - driven by AI demand that has more than doubled for 11 consecutive quarters. Intel dropped 10%, Samsung fell 7%, and the money rotated straight into China’s cheapest mega-cap.

At 16x forward earnings, Alibaba costs roughly half of Amazon. The cloud business grew 34% last year with Qwen becoming the most downloaded AI model on HuggingFace, surpassing Meta’s Llama. A $600 million DOJ settlement just cleared the biggest US legal overhang. The company has $46 billion in cash and has bought back $45 billion in stock.

But this is still a company the Chinese government fined $2.8 billion, whose founder vanished for three months, and where foreign shareholders own shares in a Cayman Islands shell - not the actual Chinese business. The Pentagon put it on a military companies list last month.

The discount is real, but so are the reasons for it.

Poll Ran
Jul 10 – Jul 17, 2026
Cash
~$46B
Market Cap
~$253B
Forward P/E
~16x
Cloud Growth
+34% (FY2026)

What's your verdict on BABA?

Here's how the community voted

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Diamond Case
  • Alibaba Cloud grew 34% in fiscal 2026 with AI product revenue more than doubling for 11 consecutive quarters. Qwen has overtaken Meta’s Llama as the most downloaded AI model family on HuggingFace, with over 1 billion cumulative downloads. UBS and Citi both project cloud growth accelerating to 45% this quarter, with management targeting $100 billion in annual cloud and AI revenue within five years.

  • At 16x forward earnings and 1.7x sales, Alibaba trades at roughly half the multiple of Amazon or Google - the cheapest mega-cap tech stock globally by nearly every metric. It holds $46 billion in cash and short-term investments with roughly $8 billion in net cash. Analysts rate it a strong buy with an average price target above $190, implying over 70% upside.

  • Alibaba has returned roughly $57 billion to shareholders through buybacks and dividends, retiring 5% of shares outstanding in fiscal 2025 alone. The regulatory picture has shifted - China completed its three-year rectification review & Jack Ma attended a symposium with Xi Jinping in February 2025.

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Dud Case
  • Foreign shareholders own shares in a Cayman Islands holding company, not direct equity in the Chinese operations - connected only by contracts never tested in Chinese courts. The Pentagon added Alibaba to its military companies list in June 2026, and a partnership of roughly 30 insiders holds the exclusive right to nominate a majority of the board.

  • E-commerce market share has fallen from roughly 75% to under 45% as Pinduoduo, ByteDance, and JD eat into Alibaba’s dominance. An industry-wide price war in instant commerce is projected to cost Alibaba alone over $5 billion this year. Fiscal 2026 free cash flow swung to negative $6.8 billion, and the March quarter posted the company’s first quarterly operating loss since 2021.

  • China’s consumer economy is stuck. May retail sales fell 0.6%, the 618 shopping festival grew just 4%, and the property crisis is in its sixth year. Alibaba stock has lost roughly $580 billion in value since October 2020 after the government cancelled the Ant Group IPO, fined the company $2.8 billion, and Jack Ma disappeared for three months. The precedent stands.

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Diamond Case
  • Alibaba Cloud grew 34% in fiscal 2026 with AI product revenue more than doubling for 11 consecutive quarters. Qwen has overtaken Meta’s Llama as the most downloaded AI model family on HuggingFace, with over 1 billion cumulative downloads. UBS and Citi both project cloud growth accelerating to 45% this quarter, with management targeting $100 billion in annual cloud and AI revenue within five years.

  • At 16x forward earnings and 1.7x sales, Alibaba trades at roughly half the multiple of Amazon or Google - the cheapest mega-cap tech stock globally by nearly every metric. It holds $46 billion in cash and short-term investments with roughly $8 billion in net cash. Analysts rate it a strong buy with an average price target above $190, implying over 70% upside.

  • Alibaba has returned roughly $57 billion to shareholders through buybacks and dividends, retiring 5% of shares outstanding in fiscal 2025 alone. The regulatory picture has shifted - China completed its three-year rectification review & Jack Ma attended a symposium with Xi Jinping in February 2025.

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Dud Case
  • Foreign shareholders own shares in a Cayman Islands holding company, not direct equity in the Chinese operations - connected only by contracts never tested in Chinese courts. The Pentagon added Alibaba to its military companies list in June 2026, and a partnership of roughly 30 insiders holds the exclusive right to nominate a majority of the board.

  • E-commerce market share has fallen from roughly 75% to under 45% as Pinduoduo, ByteDance, and JD eat into Alibaba’s dominance. An industry-wide price war in instant commerce is projected to cost Alibaba alone over $5 billion this year. Fiscal 2026 free cash flow swung to negative $6.8 billion, and the March quarter posted the company’s first quarterly operating loss since 2021.

  • China’s consumer economy is stuck. May retail sales fell 0.6%, the 618 shopping festival grew just 4%, and the property crisis is in its sixth year. Alibaba stock has lost roughly $580 billion in value since October 2020 after the government cancelled the Ant Group IPO, fined the company $2.8 billion, and Jack Ma disappeared for three months. The precedent stands.

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